I had a comment on the post I wrote that I was not able to put up here as it was written with a false email address. No idea who they were or what position in faith they ascribe to, but thought I would copy and paste it here. It read:
I’m sorry, but I think everyone has collectively lost their marbles.Has no one noticed the sheer sleuthness of Boris? The sheer slime on his face and personality? He was obviously an immoral man. All of these people prophesying about a new Churchill and a new Thatcher are people stuck to the past that are probably prophesying out of a never ending longing for the safety they knew decades ago in the redemptive gift of ruler season that ended with the dawn of the 90s.We are in a redemptive git of mercy era now, and, the old people that knew how things worked “back in the day” keep trying to bring “back in the day” back to today, and, it’s simply wrong. What’s in the past is in the past. Churchill wasn’t perfect, Thatcher wasn’t perfect. They’re dead. Let’s stop wishing them back. Political leaders need to be as per God’s will and if there’s one thing they need to have is morals, and if you read Private Eye or pretty much anything else about Boris you will see that morals weren’t his forte. Christians need to wake up and stop being lulled by mesmerisation.
A great amount of agreement there and a longing for the past, a return of the ‘good old days’ (as if they were!) will not bring us closer to a future. Crises abound, opportunity beckons.
What do you think of the doom and gloom prophesies going around? Is it right to prophesy like an Old Testament prophet now we’re in the new covenant? I heard a well respected prophet doing just that this morning prophesying that in fact we would not have stability and a righteous leader so that things will get so bad that people will turn back to God (billion soul harvest etc.). I paraphrase but this is in effect what was said! I’m not sure what I feel about it and whether it resonates and also that the further collapse of the country would even bring people to seek God. I just don’t know? She probably knows a lot more than me though and thought to pray that Liz Truss would not take her own life the other day which I didn’t even think about doing so incensed was I about the lack of integrity and craziness of the antics in Westminster.
Joanna – we all have so many questions, and when things come at us from all angles it really throws us… myself included.
And the prophetic. OK for me, I think we all have a tendency to interpret everything through our lens. So if we are ‘one billion souls’ = one billion more people in the church (walls) there is now a path toward that with ‘hardship, loss, etc.’.
I certainly did not have a word about Boris = new Churchill (I did about Liz T being the new MT). Maybe some people saw Boris as the new Churchill so he was to them the new Churchill. John the Baptist was the ‘new Elijah’ but denied it when asked… he was not the new Elijah to those people. If Boris was the new Churchill and we are looking with favour on GREAT Britain as was then the expectation is ‘he will restore Britain’… but if like me you are looking forward, it would be we got to get this out of our system, hence my perspective on Liz Truss, who is probably a good person, so these things are not personal, but ‘if she goes it gives me hope that we are clearing out of our system things from the past’.
Prophecy and judgement? Everything God does is for the purpose of redemption… And certainly not all ‘hardship’ is the judgement of God – not sure what Jesus would have made of the flood if asked!!! I say that as he did not take the view presented in the OT with regard to the tower that fell and killed people.
I think overall I want to separate prophetic revelation (although I deeply question the Trump = new Cyrus, as there is such a dislocation between who Cyrus was and who Trump was, maybe he was / is) from our expectation. I think long-term the wrecking ball aspect is not with regard to the ‘system’ / Washington but the multiple ‘Vaticans’ that are present in Western Churchianity.
Weighing the prophetic… we must have the right to hold everything that is released. It has to resonate with us, and with some we can simply say ‘don’t know, I will listen and respect, but not simply taking it on board’.
I think questions are with us… forever, or at least until we enter ‘forever’!
Thank you Martin. Very helpful indeed and extremely interesting. I sometimes weigh prophecy with my mind and not my spirit enough perhaps? I find there is so much disagreement between Christians these days about doctrine and just about everything it is terribly confusing. Like you said there are more questions than answers!!